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Mar 2, 2008 10:39pm
User_img_not_found_05_med wimora 10 posts

Topic: BUGbase / Slim line?

a BUGpda slim line. Full touch screen on the front, two BMI on the back. Make sure it has wireless/wifi, microphone, speaker, a gps, and a headphone jack.

I think this would handle everything that I can think of at the moment that I'd use on a regular basis and probably 95% of everything I'd ever do with the Bug.

Also, I saw that someone asked somewhere what the measurements and the weight of the base are but I don't remember ever seeing an answer. I guess what I really want to know is how big (and heavy) are the base, LCD and GPS together?
Mar 2, 2008 10:33pm
User_img_not_found_05_med wimora 10 posts

Topic: Java / new at programming

I have a few opinions to add.

Cameron, I’m not too far ahead of you. About 7 years ago I took a java class but I’ve rarely done anything serious with it since. From time to time I’d get out the old textbook and monkey around with it for awhile but I’m not an engineer and I don’t work in the IT field. I’ve also messed around with C++, Visual Basic, and PBASIC (which is specifically for a microcontroller). Basically, I’m a casual hobbyist. I can usually get done what I really want but between the lack of knowledge and experience I have and the time I have to devote to it it can take a LONG time.

If you want to learn programming to work with the Bug it makes sense to me to learn java instead of starting with something else. To me the language you use is just a tool. They all have their own advantages and disadvantages and you may as well learn the tool that will help you do want interests you.

I bought the Head First Java book and it is really good for the conceptual part. I’ve just started it but I think I may actually get a handle on some concepts that totally evaded me before. It is much more interesting than most books that I’ve seen and used and more geared to teaching concepts than just giving examples. The downfall of that book to me is that it seems a bit light on different kinds of code examples.

(Personally, I’m looking for some information specific to AWT everything I seem to find is oriented toward Swing and I don’t know how to relate that to working in AWT. – Any advice on that? – Kevin’s tutorials are great examples but I’m still having trouble making things work the way I want.)

The book I used to have was by Deitel and Deitel. They do "How to Program _" books. This is a lot more like what I think of as a textbook but it is not as interesting. Things are explained in detail but not well from a novices point of view. There are plenty of good code examples though (at least in the old edition that I had, I assume they haven’t changed much.)

Melinda mentioned the Java Ranch website. It is a bit cheesy but a great place for beginner to intermediate stuff. I learned a lot there (and still could I think). They have some interesting tasks to suggest you try and some good code examples.

The stuff directly from Sun is pretty difficult to me to make a lot of use of it. If I know exactly what I’m looking for it can sometimes be helpful but you have to know how to look things up and what it means when you get there. It seems more for an advanced user.

Mar 2, 2008 6:35am
somchaya 3 posts

Topic: BUGmodules / Frame rate for BUGcam2MP

Hi Melinda,

Thanks for the answer. While you’re looking into the other questions, could you also check if the frame rate of the camera can be increased if the resolution went down? Like for example, 30 fps at 640×480 or something like that. 10 frames per second would be a little slow for the applications I have in mind :D

Thanks a lot!

Mar 2, 2008 6:25am
code_slave 12 posts

Topic: BUG SDK / SDK "screen" size

Hi guys,
you need to be a little more defensive in your programing, otherwise you will be spending more and more time "cleaning up".
Get as much as you can into prop files.

Mar 1, 2008 7:02pm
Medium kschultz 107 posts

Topic: Java / new at programming

A few suggestions:

Start out with Eclipse and do some standard Java programs. The Dragonfly SDK is just a plugin for Eclipse, but there is a bit of overhead for managing when the program starts/stops on the BUG that you don't want to deal with at first.

I learned Java originally from the official Java =http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/tutorial

Have you programmed in other languages before? If not it might be easier to learn a different language first real quick i.e. Python or Ruby and then learn Java after. Java is not hard at all (i.e. you don't have to worry about memory, lots of libraries of stuff to use) but it is a bit verbose which is a distraction at first. For example to print a line in python is

print "Hello World"

whereas in java it is

System.out.println("Hello World");

But on the other hand, Java never really gets more complex than that, it is just a bunch of objects and libraries.

If you need any help, feel free to ask,
Mar 1, 2008 5:32pm
User_img_not_found_06_med cameronmclau... 8 posts

Topic: Java / new at programming

Can I use dragonfly as the program for these books or do you suggest to use another program.

Mar 1, 2008 2:56pm
Medium mcaric 64 posts

Topic: BUGmodules / Frame rate for BUGcam2MP

Hello somchaya,

The camera has a resolution of 1600×1200, and the frame rate is 10 frames per second. I’ll keep working on getting those other answers for you.


Mar 1, 2008 2:20pm
Medium mcaric 64 posts

Topic: Java / new at programming

Hi cameron,

I’m also fairly new to Java and I’m using two different books at the moment. The first is Java Programming for the Absolute Beginner, which is extremely boring, but like the title suggests, written for the absolute beginner:

The other book I’m reading is Head First Java, which is a little more complicated but also a lot more enjoyable to read:

There’s also a number of websites out there that have online tutorials available, one of my favorites is JavaRanch: http://www.javaranch.com/

Hope this helps!

Feb 29, 2008 9:09pm
aroman 21 posts

Topic: Suggestion Box / Which do you prefer: Mailing List or Newsgroup?


With a newsgroup anyone can download all the content since message #1 irrespective of when they join the list. This is useful when someone wants to search the mailing list on the go (not connected to the web: airplane, secure lab, camping (lol), etc.). Then again, maybe there are only a handful of people like myself that would benefit from this. **Note: I know I can download the archive, but this has been painful in the past.

Most mail clients show newsgroups as a separate mailbox which creates the illusion of the messages being "pushed" to you like your e-mail.

In addition to the ability to browse all the content off-line, I’ld like the ability of using my own client and my own device; not just a web browser. Think nokia n810, blackberry, iphone, heck even a BUG. I know some devices have excellent web browsers, however, do you really prefer a web ui over the mail client for message thread viewing? This point is not in favor of either approach since both address it equally well.


Feb 29, 2008 8:44pm
Medium finsprings 268 posts

Topic: Suggestion Box / Which do you prefer: Mailing List or Newsgroup?

I’d be down with a mailing list, but if there was a way to get an RSS feed from the forum that would work for me too: the "view posts since last visit" thing doesn’t seem all that reliable.

It would also be nice to get a feed from comments posted on bugnet apps – like you can get from Flickr when someone comments on your photos or marks them as a favourite. That way, if someone has a problem with an app I can get back to them in a timely fashion.

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