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Jan 21, 2009 6:12pm
User_img_not_found_02_med BadSCR 5 posts

PaintBallers Will love this App and would buy all the stuff needed to do this. (I would $900)

BugLab products needed:
One BUGbase
One BUGview (LCD)
One BUGlocate (GPS)
One Wireless Data (Wifi) (long range)

Objective: Display the Location of Team members (That are within range) with the same pass-code, and overlay them onto a map (JPEG via SD-card).
* Would be nice if it could act as a Repeater; to give more range.

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MODES OF OPERATION:

+Set Multiple Pass-Codes / Colors: ID's what team/teams to display

+Calibration / Load Map Image: Sets the Scale/Position of the map AND loads the JPEG to use as the Map via SD-Card

+Map Marker/maker: Allows the user to walk the field and hold a button and plot lines where objects are. (Saves it as a JPEG to the SD-card)

+Game-On: Display the Location of my Team members

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OPTIONS/SETTINGS

+Free-Hand Drawing over Map ON/OFF: Lets you or a referee to Draw/erase overlays on the display

+Zoom: Do you want the Display to zoom-in on your Location,, If so How much

+Are you a Referee or Player (Y/N): If Player Show as a Dot; If a Referee Show as a Star

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Game-On Mode:
Display the Location of Team members (That are within range) with the same pass-code, and overlay them onto a map (JPEG via SD-card)


+press Button #1: Player is Dead and OUT of the game (Will NOT show His Dot to others; The Display will read "OUT" in red and stay on the screen)

+press Button #1: Player is Alive and in the game (Will show His Dot to others; The Display will read "Play" in red for about 5 seconds and go-away)


+Press Button #2: Player is under attack (His Dot will blink to others-&-himself)

+Press Button #2: Player is OK (His Dot will NOT blink to others-&-himself)


+Hold Button #3: Will let you scroll around the map

+Press Button #4: Will display the menu to select "SETTINGS" or "MODES"

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Map Marker/maker: Mode:
Allows the user to walk the field and hold a button and plot lines where objects are. (Saves it as a JPEG to the SD-card)


+Hold Button #1: Plot a Small sized wall where I walk

+Hold Button #2: Plot a Medium sized wall where I walk

+Hold Buttons #1 And #2: Plot a Large sized wall where I walk


+Hold Buttons #3: Plot a Walkway where I walk

+Hold Buttons #3 And #2: Plot a Road where I walk


+Hold Buttons #1 & #2 & #3: Plot "Out of Bounds line" where I walk


+Hold Button #4: Will display the menu to select "SETTINGS" or "MODES"
May 13, 2009 3:59am
User_img_not_found_01_med riotharmus 4 posts

As an airsoft player i can vouch for the fact that this application would be a very useful indeed. More so because i play as scout sniper. So if i could walk the map and mark up strategic locations and have this info sent to my team mates further back it would give us a significant edge.

If this could also be combined with one of the other GPS Alarm app’s so when players are approaching a predetermined point a silent alarm would be triggered (something like a vibrate functionality as we don’t want everyone knowing we’re there!).

If i had enough skills i’d take this project on, as it happens i don’t and instead i’ll keep my fingers crossed that someone out there will take this on!! if someone out there is willing and i can help at all please just drop me a message and i’ll do all i can!

Cheers

Rio.

May 13, 2009 5:47am
Medium Bug Labs team kgilmer 215 posts

Sounds cool!  What kind of ranges are we talking about between players on the field?  What’s an acceptable max distance?

May 13, 2009 6:01am
User_img_not_found_01_med riotharmus 4 posts

Ranges vary massively.. for short skirmishes (paintball especially) the range wouldn’t have to be too significant, on the flip side some Airsoft MilSim games are run over 48+ hours so, as you can imagine, the field of play is considerably larger. If something like what is proposed about was available only for a short range it would still be a huge step in the right direction. (assuming it’s more than 10 meters)

To be completely honest i’m not sure what the limitations (range) of the hardware / software would be? and also the implications of equipment burden (don’t want to be lugging round a small power station with an aeriel bolted on to it).  Further more what would the accuracy of GPS/Map data be? i’e if you’ve a 5 man squad moving in a dispersed formation they could still be with in 10 meters of each other. Now if on the Map/GPS data those 10 meters occupy the same spot (due to resolution of data, scale of map etc) then it’s greatly reduced the data quality. So ideally a zoom function giving (at wide angle) an overview of the field in it’s totality and (tight angle) an reduced area but with finer resolution. (obviously dependant on the detail inputted fromt he scouts in this instance).

Another consideration, more specific to airsoft i believe, is the fact that some of the games are in urban surroundings ie abandoned buildings, built up areas and indoors. I’m fairly sure this would have an impact on GPS usage also? Though ironically this is probably where it would be most benifical to be able to share map and contact data!

This is also assuming there’s no interference issues with the regular comms (Radios)  that are used in game !

maybe not as simple as first thought!

May 14, 2009 12:36pm
Medium Bug Labs team finsprings 268 posts

Using BUGbee to mesh the players together into a  PAN might work – the BUGbee has a pretty beefy power amplifier on it – but I’m not sure how well it would cope with all the moving around: they would have to be configured as routers rather than end devices, to avoid having them all have to communicate with each other via the coordinator, and as they changed positions relative to one another they’d have to update their routing tables. Could be something to look into though.

May 15, 2009 3:38am
User_img_not_found_01_med riotharmus 4 posts

would it be an easier option to have one team member as “comms” have all the data sent to him, let him and his system compile it and then he simply sends out the maps with the data on it?

Rather than each player processing the data?

 

edit spelling

 

May 26, 2009 7:35pm
User_img_not_found_02_med BadSCR 5 posts

I vote for each player processing the data.

 

I was thinking of someting like a mesh network topology crossed with a bus network topology.

EXAMPLE:

Player-A  transmits there own data;  With a unique token/IP  and there is two or three Terminating bits.

Then Player-B (a bad guy)  receives Player-A’s data and changes the Terminating bits;  Then  transmits Player-A’s  to Player-C.

Player-C  receives Player-A’s data From Player-B and  processes  the data and displays it;    Changes the Terminating bits and re- transmits.

Whin the Terminating bits reaches a set point it self Terminats.

 

 

I play scenario paintball games,  with about 200 people on a team.  They last for 48+ hours and are played on 40+ acers of land.  Woods, little buildings, and mobile homes.   I am that guy that disappears from the start and flanks and showup from out of no-where;  People have called me Predator.

There is money in paintball,  I have seen players with thermal imaging goggles and $5000+ of equipment.  I for one have a little hand held TV with four wireless cameras.

 

Right when I was thinking this thread was dead.  Thank you all for the help,  If i had enough skills i’d take this project on, as it happens i don’t and instead i’ll keep my fingers crossed that someone out there will take this on.

May 27, 2009 8:48am
User_img_not_found_02_med BadSCR 5 posts

What if someone sets-up a big access point  (ie comms tower).  Power supply  would be: Battery, Generator, and/or drop cord.

 

http://www.l-com.com/productfamily.aspx?id=6379

The  comms tower (for one team)  would consists of:

One:   wireless router

One:   25-Watt   2.4Ghz  802.11b  Amplifier

One:   2.4 GHz Signal Splitters / Signal Combiners

Three:   2.4 GHz 24 dBi Die-cast Grid Antenna

Maybe One:  Computer/server

May 27, 2009 9:14am
User_img_not_found_01_med riotharmus 4 posts

I think applying all that in the field would be virtually impossible!

Not to mention that one of the team would have to become a comm’s officer and man the thing.. which would no doubt be a primary target!

I think keeping the entire system as portable as possible is key, the ideal being something no larger than a military radio set. Fitting in a large pouch or at biggest a backpack/bergen.

May 27, 2009 4:28pm
User_img_not_found_02_med BadSCR 5 posts

I was thinking that a “comms tower” would be more of a permanent installation owned by the field.

 

But yes, The entire system needs to be as portable as possible.

It would also be great  if there is no need for any  “comms team members”.

 

Someting like a mesh network topology crossed with a bus network topology and peer-to-peer. also each player processing the data.

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